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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby shnicker44 on Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:53 am

You sound like we have a Waco situation going on - I don't think anyone tells anyone else what to do, they all are grown men and have their own opinion.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby KennyKallina on Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:11 pm

Enlisted?

I think there are plenty of people who have taken issue with Mr. Nelson at Hoopgurlz. I feel like the only major losers will be the players on FGB and Belles who will likely be black balled from coverage by Nelson.

The action spoken by Mr. Flynn which I was a party to at the McDonald's game shows the entire situation. Feel free to email me for the ENTIRE story.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby nmolly on Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:00 pm

I want to congratulate you for taking the high road - the fact that some others are using a kid to try to show that they were right kind of disgusts me, even though I'd love to know what reaaly happened - you are doing the right thing by not sniping every day. As we all know these lists are a product of groups of people and sure they're never going to make everone happy as we all have different opinions, and some kids do get missed and usually the ones that don't make the fuss but just quietly keep playing on the court.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby Twister on Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:15 pm

Just because Kalina says something its automatically true? He obviously has an axe to grind against HG. I don't know what high road you think he's taking. I've been at Boo all weekend and seen Mark Lewis and Mindi Rice at Belles games. I never heard of the other team. I doubt HG is blackballing anybody. People who don't have minds of their own and are just trying to start something disgust me actually.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby nmolly on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:13 am

What the heck are you talking about Twister or should I say twisted - I haven't heard a peep from Flynn and all I read is sniping from a certain other character who can't give it up as his ego was dented - relying on throwing a kid to the dogs to make his point - did it ever occur to anyone that many kids probably think they were capable of making the mickey ds game and thought they' dserved it. Enough already.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby StanfordCardinalFan on Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:15 am

Twister wrote:Just because Kalina says something its automatically true? He obviously has an axe to grind against HG. I don't know what high road you think he's taking. I've been at Boo all weekend and seen Mark Lewis and Mindi Rice at Belles games. I never heard of the other team. I doubt HG is blackballing anybody. People who don't have minds of their own and are just trying to start something disgust me actually.


Twister, why you causing trouble. No need to come over here and trash talk Blue Star and then run over to HG.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby HOOPSKING on Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:24 pm

Twister, this is Derrick aka Hoopsking. I was not enlisted by anyone to bash Hoopgurlz. Mark Lewis and Mindy Rice are first class all the way. Glenn and I had our differences and he replaced me with another moderator. That was his decision as Hoopgurlz is his message board. I've said my peace on the Slam Jam message board about this issue. My mom told me the other day. She said son if you have nothing nice to say about someone, then don't say anything at all. I think I'll take my mothers advice. :)
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby StanfordCardinalFan on Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:26 am

Lewis and Rice are as good as it gets and work hard. Hansen has a solid head on his shoulders aswell. It's the OTHER one.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby Mike Flynn on Sun May 03, 2009 6:05 pm

Ah. Mr. Twister. Thank you for posting here as you have been a nasty person on Slam Jam. As for the question, it won't be erased, we're not that other site which pulls people off their site for whatever reasons and so much they had to give a repreive to those they kicked off to get more traffic back onto the site over the holiday. Geez, nothing like that necessary here. But, there is no elistment as you call it, nothing of the sort. And, for someone who doesn't follow basketball its a good questions but without substance. If you know any of the people they all are strong willed and have their own points of view. When people sometime come to the same conclusion it may look like a 'group' action, but it is not. If you were in Miami at the McDonald's game to see the horrible public display towards another member of the media, seen by at least three nationally known basketball writers, you'd be appalled too. It was the talk of the event.

Vendetta would mean that there is something afoot. Well, I can tell you there is not, just a matter of new kids wanting attention and doing whatever in the way of selection, writing, commenting, whatever it takes to create controversy with the status quo and get people to watch a so-called 'controversy' and get clicks which leads to cash. The clicks for cash crowd knows no sensibility only whatever it takes to be that and gain a spotlight on themselves by creating whatever manner of issue it takes. You know, the man bites dog stuff that you see at the supermarket. Do you think this new internet age for people who need clicks for cash is anything but?

The fact that you used the work Vendetta shows that you've fallen prey and have blindly lock-stepped into the same thinking that was created for you by others.

My convern about Slam Jam comments and commentary by a number of people is the hateful and racist remarks made by some posters that are basically hate crimes. I will stop at that as there is always people looking to be incredibly stupid in the 21st century.

Oh, as for Mark Lewis being at Belles games, heck yes, the Belles have a great team. One of the best as its a long summer and anyone knows being at the top is a good showing. Don't worry, in the end, Belles players will be underrated, not listed or just taken down a ped due to their extended relationship with me. This has happened (as I will post later in May when I get back off the road) before and will continue as long as Mr. Lewis is ignored or shot down by his newie boss.

Kenny Kallina is a young guy with a lot of energy who's earned the respect of the elders of the business of girls basketball, not barging in and demanding respect and more because of their former status in another section of basketball they couldn't survive in. Before Mr. Kallina got any respect from me I spoke to a number of very important and respected people who are workers and who are long-time students of girls basketball and asked them if Mr. Kallina was a fly-by-night gate crasher to girls basketball or someone who's donig the homework, being fair and open minded as much as new guys can be. I was told yes by a number of people. That's why he's got my respect. Mark Lewis gained my long before his bosses were even possibly writing anything outside of high school. He's earned his spurs way before the interent became a forum for the sport.

Sometime in May I will post my blog - The Crying Game - which should answer a lot of questions about how this got out of control this year. I will lay it out for the audience to hear as it will be what really went down. Remember, controversy doesn't need to exhist here, but it does elsewhere as clicks lead to cash.

ps. I just posted this from Berlin, Germany where I just witnessed the 2009 Euroleague men's basketball final where Athens Panathinakois beat Moscow CSKA by two in a great game with every possession a battle in the final three minutes. This is the Euro-style game that we see at the Olympics and the game we'll see in London in 2012.

Also saw the Michael Cooper article on ESPN and the official status of the rumor that's been out there for over two months, long before Mark Trahk left the buidling.

Next events will be the Nike Skills Academies and then the USAB 16U trials in Colorado Springs at the end of the month. I hope it doesn't turn into a fiasco as I hear it might be on selections.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby StanfordCardinalFan on Sun May 03, 2009 10:50 pm

I admit that I do look at their rankings atleast once a week and would know less about the annual AAU events and recruiting scene if it weren't for them. I don't post there but I do occasionally read their MB. One post that caught my attention is when they were covering the AAU events 2 weeks ago they told everyone to follow their "twitter" for the updates. And kept saying, those who follow our tweets will know first. lmao. This is ESPN right?
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby shnicker44 on Mon May 04, 2009 12:12 pm

Well I read all of the darn posts including slam jam and I love it - I can say I don't know anyone who writes them including Flynn but from my own opinion I can say that I would follow along with flynn, lewis, and a guy called blacktop, I truly think they know a lot about the players and the game, I also like to read Kennys stuff and after he puts un some more time I think he will be up there. I tend to go on here more as Flynn doesn't sugar coat anything and I like that, SCF always has the scoop too - I think you're an underground mole.

As far as the rankings go I know first hand that college coaches will go after who they watch for a long period off time that fits their needs - rankings may get someone a look but it in no way makes the coaches pick a higher ranked player over another unless they suit their program. Look at some of the past top players, they don't always pan out. So the philly girls will get theirs with or without HGs help.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby Mike Flynn on Thu May 07, 2009 5:02 pm

I have spent the month of April on the road attending various events here in the US and also in Europe. The one thing I do not do is read other message boards nor post on other boards as it is stupid to waste my time reading and giving credence to anything by reading it. I do say that a lot of what is posted gets sent to me as a comment about it or the original. The comments by shnicker44 are interesting. There's a lot that gets said behind the scenes as we there is a group of about 10 to two dozen people who really followed this sport and know alot. During those conversations people fill in the blanks of what they don't know or haven't heard yet, some of which just can't be posted. As for the rankings comment, these observations are true too as colleges chase what they think they need regardless of what their number is. The top player is a real important part of the girls basketball game as it is a position that should influence and help build interest and attention to the game in a positive way. I've told many people after you look at the top 10-20 players you can get a hat and start picking by the bunch or the need as No. 35 who is a Guard and could be interchangeable with No. 52 who is a Forward. I think the proper way is to do it by blocks of ten alphabethical. This is how we talk about players until it comes down to giving people numbers at the end of the summer. As for the Philly girls, well, I'll get to that in my later blog.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby nmolly on Thu May 07, 2009 6:29 pm

I tell ya - I can't wait, the whole cryptic posting on HG is just wierd to me, I'd rather a person just came out and said what they mean than continually trying to sway you to believe their point of view.

I am wondering if it will hurt the kids now - lets say you get a story and the other decides to black ball them, I hope not.
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby shnicker44 on Thu May 07, 2009 6:56 pm

Me too, I find it odd that there seems to be someone posting all over the place dissing on Flynn et al, wonder who that is!!!!
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Re: Nelson Fired at ESPN?

Postby Twister on Fri May 08, 2009 9:38 am

Really schnicker you find it odd that other people have there own minds. I have a kid who was helped by being on HG and ignored by Blue Star. When I got the email about what was happening you bet Im going to stick up for HG because I know they wont. I dont know anyone who posts over here but me. Maybe your all Flynn too.
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